Discussion: I'll ALWAYS hate Kureo Mado and I can't accept how people can sympathize with him.

Tobi4047 years ago2

Fitting that I would post this on fathers day lol.

AkameZ167 years ago1

I guess since its anime and not real, people tend to see these sort of characters as cool and edgy. I love Esdeath from AGK but she's done lots of cruel stuff in the show. Irl, they are the worst and no one likes them. People will try anything to defend their fav char. but no one will sympathize people with same personality irl. They'll try to find some deep meaning to their actions so people will agree with their opinions.
I hate Asuka Langely from Evangelion. I don't understand why people like her. She is so irritating. I skipped almost every scene with her in it. I know she has a reason for her behavior but instead people praise that behavior..why? Same with Bakugo. He's basically a bully in reality but people like him cuz its anime.

Tobi4047 years ago
I sort of loved Asuka actually and felt sorry for her. I saw her as a pathetic child which is to me what she was. After all she was 14. That being said though I get where your coming from completely. I kind of hated Shinji when he decided to destroy the world in end of eva. ~!!~
There are very few characters I hate like I did Mado. I mostly feel something for most of these characters. Hell Mayuri Kurotsuchi is one of if not my favorite character and his only redeeming quality was that he loved his daughter/creation in his own way but was too embarrassed to show it. I think they did a really good job humanizing him and I found him to be relatable due to his personality ect.~!!~
I can't bring myself to not hate Mado though. I think for me the clincher was what I mentioned in my post about him.

Ragian7 years ago1

You don't seem to be able to understand the actual context of the story and characters so you'll just ignorantly hate on a character like that. If you are so fixated in your point of view you'll just stay there even when you are so wrong. Have fun not knowing how to understand literary context.

Tobi4047 years ago3
@Ragian Triggered much? I understand perfectly what they were trying to go for with him. I just can't accept the man and hate him just like he hated the ghouls ironically enough. I know there was good in him ect ( though so minuscule as to not be worth mentioning ) however he refused to see any in ghouls and tortured a child psychologically as much as possible. I mentioned in my original post how I saw the good in him and how that to me anyway made me hate him all the more because when confronted with a child who overcame the same despair he felt his reaction was to try to brutally murder her and torture her psychologically all the while mocking her feelings. He was not human anymore. I would have enjoyed it if he lost his daughter too so I could see him cry and suffer even more and than break whatever he had left keeping him alive as a mass of tears as he pines for his wives fucking corpse , unable to do anything but suffer and cry like the child he tormented so cruelly. Forgiving him to me is the real evil.
As cliche as this sound he belongs in hell ( not that I necessarily believe in such a place in reality as I don't ) and he stopped being a human being long ago but instead became something just as evil if not more so then his ignorant and biased view of the ghouls. He fell too far to be forgiven by any normal sane human being and anyone who can't see how rotten what he turned into was is the truly ignorant person here. Have fun not knowing what an opinion is. Typical overly cynical pretentious holier than thou Tokyo Ghoul fan.
Keep defending that demon with your legions of overly sympathetic children who can't admit how many faults Tokyo Ghoul actually has because it's oh so edgy. ( I really do love Tokyo Ghoul but come on every story has it's faults and we all know many of the biggest faults are in the fandoms. ) Which is why we have so many people ship Kaneki with Tsukiyama instead of the canon ship.
Would you really defend him in real life I wonder? Yeah it's a fucking story but I wonder would you so readily defend this creature if he were real? If so I would say your a better man than I though in actuality no as it is mere prostrating enabling of a maniac who abandoned the right to live among human beings long ago. What you seem to oh so conveniently miss in what I am saying is I know full well what the writer was trying to show but I rebuke that as a person and could not accept Mado and In my own opinion to forgive him would in itself be nearly unforgivable.
I can forgive and love nearly anyone. Simply not a vile lunatic who psychologically torments a child to death after slaughtering her mother in front of her and literally LIVES to kill a race or group who he deems as less than human and less than even scum. I find it near impossible to forgive people ( if we can call them people ) who kill innocent people or target an entire group of people for whatever reason. I can't forgive cruel murdering , genocide and discrimination against anyone so fucking sue me.
I know the ghouls are not saints but in the end many if not most just want to live. As I mentioned Touka is a CHILD so yeah Mado was at least in his 50's. Who can we more readily judge based on their actions?
Is it so difficult for you to see someone who knows exactly what something is and even understands it but still refuses to accept it? I know what they were going for with the bastard but I can not accept a demon in the skin of a man who lives to kill a race he deems inferior and when faced with a mirror of his situation his only response is more cruelty.
Why is this so hard for you to get? Are you a complete imbecile or just blind and death? possibly severally mentally challenged or something? Honestly I can't see what is so hard to get here. However I'm sure you'll just retort with more brilliance about how I simply don't understand the literary context.
Xelith7 years ago5
@Ragian You said he's wrong and didn't even explain why. There was no argument made, only condescending comments. You contributed absolutely nothing to this thread.
- Tobi4047 years ago3
  @Alaerias Thank you! for this comment.

BenNet17007 years ago7

Before even reading the post I looked at the title and wondered "People actually sympathize with that dude?". I agree, just because he loves his family doesn't give him a pass to being a pos towards ghouls.

Tressym7 years ago2

I guess, since most people never had been in that situation (luckily, I wouldn't want), the "killing" is just fictional and for enterainment or they view it as a part of the story. Many people never thought about it either, I think. They judge characters, who don't want to kill or hesitate... just aren't fond of lol Because it's not "cool" and they might think that it would be an easy thing to do (physically and emotionally).

I also prefer characters, who try to avoid killing or hurting others by casualities, if it's a possible option in the given situation, or characters, who feel remorse... or just anything. It makes them far more human and less of an axe-crazy psychopath.
I also always disliked Lucy from Elfen Lied for example. The author wanted us to feel sympathy for her, but I couldn't feel anyhing else than disgust for a raging psychopath.

But you can't defend someone by saying "hey, they aren't adult yet, so they.." what? Not knowing what they are doing? She is surely old enough to know that and she is far, far away from being a child. If you had a teenage neighbour, who kills someone, because he is bored for example, you wouldn't say this.

Tobi4047 years ago1
@ManekiMewchan Sorry I am just replying now but I was muted for a few days so I couldn't reply. I too dislike characters who kill , well evil cruel characters who kill anyway. I do however like good guys who kill bad guys. Like Kenshiro for example is one of my favorite characters in anything. Even if he feels sorry for some bad guys he still killed them if they were really really evil.
Anyway I actually agree with you on Lucy. Even though I did feel a tiny near non existent amount of sympathy for her I still felt relieved and down right pleased when she died. I think her dying was the only way it could have ended. She just kept killing over and over and over and we were supposed to feel sorry for her because she was bullied? The turning point for me was when she killed Kota's sister. I think that even she knew the only way for her to atone for anything was to die. As for " Nyu " appearing at the end Nyu was originally the side of Lucy that was innocent so that side may have somehow been spared. Regardless Lucy needed and deserved to die.
As for Touka I was not entirely excusing her actions but merely saying she is the lesser of two evils here. Also as a ghoul she had been conditioned to kill and eat humans so there is that. Also and I know that many may disagree with the " she is a child " aspect which at one point could have even been used for Lucy ( up until the bitch reached a point of yeah no sorry bitch you die lol ) but it is true that a young persons brain is not fully developed at Touka's age. Again I really am not excusing her but merely condemning Mado for the evil monster that he was.

H1GHLANDER3607 years ago3

Tobi4047 years ago2
@H1GHLander360 Not to come across as " rude " but why bother posting this? It just shows you don't have the attention span to read a long post.

Nagadir6 years ago

People sympathize because they know he does horrible stuff, that life is unfair and that some people literally go batshit crazy if people they care about are killed. At least I feel sad how he ended, what he become.
Humans and ghouls both do horrible stuff in this anime/manga and it only made more crazy humans and ghouls doing horrible stuff.

OriBread6 years ago2

I can sympathise and understand the motives of Kureo Mado but that doesn't mean don't i hate his guts

BushiShuritto4 years ago1

Wait. Was he the one that wore the gloves all the time and had that look of “ I steal children and do NAUGHTY things to them”. That was him, right?

Tobi4044 years ago
@BushiShuritto Yeah that freak with the evil grin and like one eye looking bigger than the other or something yeah. Really hate that bastard and he got off far far too easy.

deleuze4 years ago1

Lots of text, zero arguments. Only emotions. "They're just children!"

I still don't understand why killing baby man-eater monsters is bad.
These "children" would have eaten your parents, then you would have a different opinion about the ghouls.

Mado did nothing wrong. Mado is a hero. He is someone who just did his job: saving people and exterminating monsters. And he was very enthusiastic about his favorite work. Best character in this anime. The hope of mankind.

"As long as it's for the right cause, there's nothing wrong with playing dirty." (c)

Try to object.

Tobi4044 years ago1
Mado is not a hero and here is why , a hero doesn't kill a child while taunting and tormenting it and enjoying it's suffering as much as possible. A hero won't relish in the suffering of a child as he mocks her parent's death. Even if the ghouls are so terrible for eating people nothing changes fact that Mado was the type of person to torment and murder a child.
There's no forgiving the level of sadism he showed towards Hinami and there's no excusing it. He was scum and his death was far far to quick and painless. Mado was clearly overly vindictive and obsessed with revenge. Even in the narrative these actions were painted in a negative light. That same narrative that pathetically tried to make him sympathetic also condemns how far he had fallen because of his hatred for the ghouls. Lastly if you truly believe the ends justify the means you're not even worth talking to.
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  - Tobi4044 years ago
    @deleuze Ooh you sure showed me. Yeah think whatever you want. This post has as many likes as it does for a reason and there's more people who hate the son of a bitch than those of whom who like him. The ghouls are not inherently monsters but Mado became a greater monster. Think what you want and go ahead and insult my intelligence if that helps you sleep at night. The fact that you went right to " low IQ " mentality shows which one of us is the stupid one here. Anyone knows IQ scores have long been criticized as poor indicators of a person's all around intelligence.
    Keep harping on about how Mado is good because he killed " monsters. " Keep harping on about how he's a hero .... a hero who relished in someones despair and suffering. All he ever was was a hateful man who wanted revenge because he lost his wife to ghouls. The only thing better than him dying would be for him to have had to lose his daughter too and fall even deeper into suffering only to finally die after months if not years of torment. That's the thing , that mentality would make me no better than him but in his case I'd make an exception and out him through hell. The one thing stopping me would be that his daughter doesn't deserve to die. Mado himself deserves the slowest most painful lonesome despair ridden death imaginable.

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