[Spoilers] Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season Part 2 - Episode 9 Discussion

This episode wasn't bad, but anyone who isn't named Jean I just hate. Hange's entire argument is essentially just "Yeah, I know if we stop Eren everyone on paradise is gonna die, but guys genocide is bad, it's fine if the rest of the world genocides us but if we do it to them that's where I draw the line". Goddamn, I hate the alliance so much.

Very minor spoilers for the next few episodes
I really hate how after this chapter the alliance gets all friendly with each other, they essentially act like they're best friends. Levi never once calls out Annie, Reiner, or any of them for killing his comrades, he just acts like the "grumpy old uncle".

I never said who was in the right or who was in the wrong, what I wrote is that certain characters said certain things and it was later revealed if their statements were correct or not.

Come on man all you had to do was just read the next part of the sentence. "Is right" and "Is in the right" are two completely different things.

Also, just because it's fiction doesn't make agreeing with it okay, genocide happens in real life and it's horrible, thinking a character committing genocide is in the right shouldn't be okay just because it's fiction.

Oh my god, this is the whole Joker (2019) or even the "you shouldn't play shooter games because shooting happens IRL" thing all over again. I don't understand that whenever a fictional story is a little realistic you people have this weird mind set to compare it with actual real life. What, now are you gonna start saying that people can't sympathize and support Joker's character because mass shootings and violent riots are a thing IRL? F*ck off. Back then so many weirdos started saying that this movie would cause a lot more of those things to happen IRL, and you know why all those idiots were wrong, because people know the difference between fiction and reality and they know when to separate the two. Whenever people bring real life in to these discussions I just don't care what else you have to say, because to me you don't have any actual good arguments to make. Lemme quickly reiterate, I absolutely can support Eren because he's a fictional character in a fictional story. Just because genocide happens IRL doesn't mean people who support Eren are okay with it IRL, they're with him because they like his character.

Also why doesn't anyone ever do this with stuff like John Wick? What, is it because It's an action movie that's why It's okay? John Wick doesn't need to kill anyone, but he does it anyway and that's what makes those movies fun. I don't see anyone ever saying "you shouldn't support John Wick because killing happens in real life".

~!(Forgive me my English in advance, please)

Things like fast becoming friends with your enemy happened over the years even during our own history. In '40s, during Christmas, both British and German army on the war fronts came out of their trenches to throw a party where they were singing Christmas Carols, drinking beer and overall having time of the war. Weeks later British leadership had to throw their troops to new locations because soldiers didn't want to shoot to their bros. (and it wan't lone area, in many places theoretically enemy armies did the same)

Diffrent situatons, I know, but I just want to show that becoming sudden friends with enemy of your lifetime isn't something absolutely out of the line, things like this actually happened. (Propaganda during WWII was impressive, so just how bad opinion some of the ruffs had to have about their foes and how many of these prejudices they throwed away back then?) So, that's why I think of it as possible situation.

It's also literally "enemy of my enemy is my friend" position, which I don't think is stupid during wartime. You don't have to kill each other at the moment when there's way greater enemy on the horizon.

(There were hints of Armin and Annie all along the way, I think it's kinda natural it end up like this. In my eyes it's neither really bad nor really good.)!~

Start of the story: Eren wants to protect his friends.

Middle of the story: "You guys are important to me, more than anyone else."

End of the story: Eren fucking kills them?