why is the anime SHIKI so underrated

Soka23MaebaraMar 1, 202143 replies3K views

Shiki

its actually really good, yet i literally hear no noise around it

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Morimasa5 years ago21
It's 10 years old... It was pretty popular in it's days, but they have long passed and hundreds of other shows aired.
Usertty5 years ago2
lmao its not. more like bc its a 2000s vampire story everybody is sick of the trope.
- GloryL5 years ago24
  I have my doubts about whether you finished this anime or not, cuz even if it's a normal vampire trope, it's more than that.
  Shiki's ending is an ending you won't find anywhere else not just vampire stories.
  This anime is great and the stories and morals it discusses are just fascinating.
  So yeah it's not just a suck vampire trope but everyone had enough of.
  - Usertty5 years ago2
    i guess the moral ambiguity at the end was supposed to be deep or something, but really, it turned out as I expected. Character design was poopy, pacing was slow af, action was bad, the heart of a human body of a beast thing is overdone..
Sickly5 years ago2
thank u for reminding me to add this to my list, that michael jackson dude & megumi were mad annoying lmao
- Soka23Maebara5 years ago
  bruhhh that dudes voice eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
siddhant265 years ago9
just look at all the anilist profiles, you will see the same anime in the favourites section. I believe it's because most people have just started watching and they haven't dug deep into the anime rabbit-hole that's why they don't know older/forgotten shows.
julescore5 years ago
well it's kinda older, also it's not really underrated as it's one of the more popular horror anime tbh.
Toujiko5 years ago9
It’s not underrated, It’s underwatched.
RemedyKreutzer5 years ago2
I've had shiki recommended to me for a decade but only watched it now; I was put off by vampire and horror genres, but turns out it was really good(not actually scary tbh) and worth my time; it's strongest points is how well written the story is and how it comes together, and ensemble cast of diverse characters
The weakest point is the moral dilemma it tried to introduce and failed
- Soka23Maebara5 years ago
  it isnt scary but usually good horror anime(there are only few) manage to creep you out with certain human behaviour traits or scenarios. none actually get you outta of your seat in horror
TarunTeja5 years ago1
A friend of mine asked me to watch/read Shiki, I kind of lost interest in animanga at this point so it's on hold. I don't think it's that underated.
Removed5 years ago2
Not really. Its just that horror isn't a genre with a lot of hype.
Normally speaking, you'll see more people here talking about
shonen action, isekais, seinen-action, etc.
Otherwise in terms of the horror genre, its pretty well-known.
- Esajas4 years ago1
  I wouldn't really call it horror though. I think a lot of people when they hear the term horror expect some really ''scary'' anime but this is more like, ethical horror or something along those lines. (In my opinion of course)
  - Removed4 years ago1
    I still think it fits. I mean, when I did watch it I was fine with it and I get what you're saying.
    I wasn't scared while watching it but it was just .... disturbing (?) to think about.
    However, a few years before that, i'd seen clips and those did scare me. At that age (12),
    my family friends and I used to scare each other with this OST at night. Plus. with anime,
    to begin with, the level of horror often isn't as scary as live-action films or horror games.
    Watch on YouTube
    Regardless, horror or not, Shiki's genre - whatever that
    may be - is what makes it not talked about that much.
KarmaNotFound4 years ago1
People who watch it find it good. But people rarely watch it. Well it is kind of old and the art style is, let's say, unique. And on top of that the starting is rather slow. So most people drop it after 3/4 episodes. If only they could suck it up and watch the whole show.
bitchassdarius4 years ago5
its actually overrated, this shit sucks. if you think the writing is good and "makes you think", then try thinking about why applying normative ethics to folkloric creatures is a fool's errand and this show is based. based on my ass, that is.
- Removed3 years ago
  what do you mean by ''normative ethics''?
  - NotWeeb3 years ago
    i forgot everything about this show but he probably means what's ethical for humans shouldn't be the same for non-humans
    Removed3 years ago
    uhm.
    Is that something you believe?
    Cause talking about that with someone who's just trying to explain someone else's perspective, not their own, would probably just be confusing.
DaimonR3 years ago
No idea, I binged it with my friends and it was definitely one of the best horror anime I've seen... I should rewatch it though, since I saw it a long time ago.

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bitchassdarius3 years ago1
ethics only exists within the scope of humanity. most folklore and mythologies predate metaethical quandaries, so trying to square the circle of "humans considering the ethics of creatures that eat them" doesn't really work. you might as well tell a story about chickens trying to rationalize humans eating them from the chicken's POV, which doesn't sound like a very convincing. chicken run is about the chickens escaping, not pondering whether or not they have the right to escape.
- Removed3 years ago
  ethics only exists within the scope of humanity.
  Don't monkeys have concepts of fairness of rewards and sharing; you probably know the experiment I'm referring to with that
  most folklore and mythologies predate metaethical quandaries, so trying to square the circle of "humans considering the ethics of creatures that eat them" doesn't really work.
  uhm. is there a reason why it couldn't work?
  Like, does it also not work if we imagine it in a sci-fi setting?
  We are capable of thinking about the ethics of ourselves and others, so if this is a theoretical that was proposed for someone to think about, what about it doesn't work?
  Aside form that, I also don't think Shiki does this a lot, most humans don't really consider not fighting an option, and if they do it is often more-so out of disgust, which is a very strong motivator for humanity throughout history.
  The nazis that refused to execute Jews cited physical disgust at the action as their reason for refusing, not a specifically moral one.
  I don't think the person mercy killing Shiki did it because he felt it was right to end their suffering from a purely ethical form of thinking, but instead felt disgusted by the screams of agony.
  you might as well tell a story about chickens trying to rationalize humans eating them from the chicken's POV, which doesn't sound like a very convincing.
  Well, for chickens it'd be hard to do, since they have no real self-awareness or rationalization, so to tell the story one would have to add that volition/consciousness to them, which would greatly affect how one views the story, since chickens are now intelligent beings.
  chicken run is about the chickens escaping, not pondering whether or not they have the right to escape.
  I think Seishin is the only clear person this applies to, but his perspective on the whole thing isn't exactly framed as the right one.
  The show basically portrays him as someone who puts little value on his own life and lives ''decadently''.
  His love of a romanticized ideal of an ''abandoned one'' is what gets him to side with the Shiki.
  - Removed3 years ago
    I have a bigger issue with how I don't really see why it is necessary to kill the people they attack.
    They say there's a hunger that one cannot resist, but this isn't a situation where a single feeding will kill a person; you'd have to visit the same person 4 times in quick succession to kill them, so you should be able to switch victims before that and avoid killing anyone.
  - bitchassdarius3 years ago1
    Don't monkeys have concepts of fairness of rewards and sharing
    having a system that resembles a human system doesn't equate the 2, it just makes comparisons easier. it could be the case that the underlying psychological mechanics of monkeys are incompatible with humans and just happen to be expressed similarly to humans. we can't make the same claims between humans because that kind of phenomenology is more or less antiquated with breakthroughs in cog sci.
    Like, does it also not work if we imagine it in a sci-fi setting?
    it's just anachronistic. mythology isn't really comparable to sci-fi in a general sense. myths and folktales have a more minute scale of religion and culture from which they are sourced, sci fi
    generally speaking, tends to look at questions of humanity as a whole. it's part of why new folktales and myths are so rare these days. i'm sure there are some areas in sci fi where this isn't true, but the exceptions don't make this comparison relevant.
    most humans don't really consider not fighting an option
    this is just not true, and demonstably so. females alone take up more than half the population.
    for chickens it'd be hard to do, since they have no real self-awareness or rationalization,
    sure, but if we take that a step further, do we know that the monsters in shiki have self-awareness? what if they are like the zombie cockroaches that act in a way that seems normal, but all of it programmed by another being? we can't really know that.
    and say that i grant that they have some sort of consciousness. then that just necessitates they have a different order of ethics which is intrinsically perpendicular to the existence of humans, i.e. they are bad guys in the truest sense, and humans are good. that's not very interesting, and i don't think proving a moral objectivity is the story's goal.